Amelie & Lucas, Oscar & Pearl

Terribly sad news to hear the passing of Lucas, he and Amelie bought us many great moments over the years. As VHTV has said he was not killed in combat my only wish would be that Amelie and family were with Lucas at the end and he was not alone.

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Since the news of Lucas’ death I’ve been thinking a lot about what to write here. But all the condolences I come up with feel like empty phrases.

Like it would be dishonest of me to say I’d miss and never forget him, when, really, I barely even knew him. Am I even in a position to offer my condolences when I’m really just a wanker who spends some money to watch other people fuck, or would that be cynical?

Truth is, to me Lucas was only one participant among many. I probably watched him and Amelie a couple of times, but they never were among my top favorites. He only really came to the forefront of my attention later, through his ominous absence and brief visits, due to the war. Something of a reminder. Real people. Real life.

His death now harshly puts things into perspective. Feels pretty decadent now, how we are sitting here, happily using the lives of others as our fapping material, while, not too far away, some of them are facing the most existential crisis. Makes you feel bad about yourself, doesn’t it? And my disappointment in myself somehow reminds me of how disappointed I am of our governments who keep failing to properly support the Ukraine in the war effort.

I may not be able to do anything meaningful about the war, but I could do a little bot to support Amelie. So I’d like to make a donation. If I have money to spare to subscribe to a naughty website, that’s the least I could do. Should do, really. Difficult to find a good excuse not to do so. But I have not done so yet because I have some concerns about the proceedings.

If you click on the little “
” icon next to the PayPal account email address that @VHTV_James gave us, it says they have no confirmation if that account is accessible by Amelie now. Here’s where it gets complicated.

I don’t know how Amelie and Lucas have arranged these things, or how it is usually done in the Ukraine, but in Germany, when somebody dies, the banks lock down their accounts so that nobody can get at the money, until it’s legally cleared who the rightful heirs are and all the proper paperwork is filed. So if the money that comes in via PayPal is transfered to a bank accout that is registered to Lucas’ name only, that would be a huge problem. Cards or online banking wouldn’t work anymore. If they were not married, and Lucas didn’t leave a proper Last Will and Testament in Amelie’s favor, which is recognized by the authorities, Amelie won’t be able to access that money.

So is there a way to find out if that PayPal account ist still a viable way to support Amelie? Shouldn’t their manager know more? I have no idea who that would be. Or is anyone else in close enough contact with her to sensibly ask? Any other ideas?

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Firstly I would like to offer my condolences to Pearl and Oskar after this terrible loss. After all, the two of them were very close friends, I think. And they will help Amelie through these difficult hours.
I would also like to mention that I am very proud to be a part of this worldwide forum. Because what I have read in the last few days is absolutely marvellous. And I think that if Amelie and her loved ones have the strength to read something from us again, whenever the time comes, it will help them a lot. At least that’s my hope, that we can help them regain their strength. :hugs: :heart: :ukraine:

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I was dreading this day.

Lucas, a name whispered now on the breeze,
A soldier in Ukraine, fallen on his knees.
A stranger to me, yet a story untold,
His bravery etched in a sunflower bold.

Amelie weeps, tears like a summer rain,
For a love unfulfilled, a love struck with pain.
Dreams dreamt together, shattered like glass,
A future unwritten, forever to pass.

Photos they linger, a smile on his face,
A life full of laughter, a heart full of grace.
He fought for a land now not entirely his own,
But courage resides where seeds of freedom are sown.

Though flags fly at half-mast, a somber display,
His spirit takes flight on the wings of the day.
In sunflowers’ faces, a glimpse of his light,
Shine on, dear Lucas, a hero so bright.

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estoy intentando confirmar que se puede aun mandar dinero en esa cuenta

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You’re completely right. I was thinking I should stop watching this content after this happened. Even when Amelie and Lucas were the only ones I was watching lately on this website.
His death is in on my mind past two days and it’s terrible feeling. I can’t imagine how Amelie has to feel now. If there would be some official donation link where she would really get the money from I would go for it as well. It’s not much in this situation but at least something we can do. Anyways I still can’t believe it all ended like this.

:pray: In case you feel like helping Amelie and her family with organizing decent funeral & proceedings, please do so by sending your donations to their confirmed PayPal account : amelieandlucas8@gmail.com

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I am not sure what more do you need other than this:

You guys don’t see the dot dot dot button?

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No hemos confirmado adicionalmente si Amelie puede acceder a esta cuenta ahora, pero no tenemos otros métodos confirmados para aceptar fondos y donaciones.

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  1. It is most likely that Amelie is the owner of the account, purely because it was used to purchase things during and before the war, the chance that Lucas has access to the internet and had time to do internet banking at the front seems very likely to me small

  2. the names of the account are ‘artist names’, that is, not their real names, but the names as we know them, so it might as well have been mickeyMouse or some other fictitious name

  3. VHTV has indicated that we can use that Paypal account.

If he says that, it must have been validated, right?

  1. Don’t worry so much about those things. Amelie has other things on her mind
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Arriba puse lo que pone en mensaje de VHTH

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But VHTV has indicated in a hidden way that there is no additional confirmation as to whether this account is now accessible to Amelie. (This information only appears when you activate the button with the three dots.)

And that is what unsettles Julio. But I fully agree with you that Amelie certainly has other things on her mind


If one don’t feel good about a donation because of uncertainty, one should simply not donate. (imo)

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That is what I mean, why create a new Drama in a Drama?

what an unnecessary comment
 Let’s just leave it alone.

OK, I’ll try again to explain the problems I see with this PayPal account. We only have very little actual information here, so this is mostly based on my own experiences.

I only have experiences with how these things are done in Germany, but the way it’s done is actually very logical and reasonable, so I can only assume it’s somewhat similar in the Ukraine.

We know Lucas and Amelie had this PayPal account, and we know that VHTV doesn’t know whether or not that PayPal account is accessible to Amelie anymore.

And it isn’t really the PayPal account that matters, it’s the bank account behind that PayPal account that I’m worried about.

I could say my PayPal account is only an interface for my real bank account, every Euro I spend via PayPal is taken from my bank account, every Euro I receive via PayPal goes directly into my bank account.

I could let my girlfriend use may PayPal account, could let her use my online banking, she could even get her own debit card to my bank account, with her name printed on it.

When I get run over by a truck all of that goes away. The bank locks down my bank account, it basically becomes a black hole for money. Money can come in, for example via my PayPal account, but nothing gets out. No withdrawals, no debit card, no online banking, no PayPal shopping. Until the authorities have determined who is legally entitled to access my funds.

And that won’t be my girlfriend, because from a banking and legal point of view “girlfriend” is equivalent to “random stranger”. Unless I left a waterproof Last Will and Testament in my girlfriend’s favor, my money would be split up between my parents and siblings.

We don’t know how Lucas and Amelie arranged their finances. I could be that they created a shared bank account for their VHTV income and PayPal donations, including sensible arrangements in the event that something should happen to one of them. But most young lovers don’t worry that much about banking technicalities or their own mortality. I think it’s more likely they just used one of their individual bank accounts.

And that’s why, from my point of view, I see a very real possibility that whatever money goes to that PayPal account may not be accessible to Amelie anymore. In the worst case, if they used Lucas’ bank account for all of this, it might even be that she’s cut off from her VHTV income right now.

Am I worrying too much? Well, this definitely worries me. If we want to support Amelie we need to know if our support actually reaches her.

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I have been away and it is heart breaking to get back, check in and to hear this terrible news. My heart goes out to you Amelie and to all Ukrainians who suffer this terrible war. May you find such peace as you can in these awful circumstances. Like many of us on the Forum for whom you and Lucas enlightened our lives, I grieve for you and your family and friends.

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I see people are cautious of sending money via PayPal, can you do as a special occasion allow for people to send VHTV tokens without the various cuts taken off? So Amelie will receive the full amount.

@kaya if you could please ask just in case VH does’nt see this.

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Damn, this is hard.

I came here for my voyeuristic fetish
 nothing else, ye its fun to “get to know” the people and have your favorites but in the end we look at them like pornstars, get our satisfaction and continue on with our lives.

Never thought I’d get so invested in these strangers. I guess since Lucas was the only VHTV participant who had “serious” business to take care off outside of the website this couple always intrigued me.

It also makes me feel “dirty” that we see these people as nothing more then sex-objects and we sometimes forget that these are people with their own troubles and tribulations.

All love and strenght to Amelie and their families. This war is dreadfull, completely senseless and it - like so many other wars - drags younger generations into a conflict formed by older generations.

RIP Lucas, you might be gone but you are immortalised as a hero for your country.

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Codoleance to Amelie and Luca’s Family

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